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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

How about mccain's tax credits for married couples with 2 kids compared to obama's robin the hood tax cuts.

Are you watching wall street? Do you know anything about taxing corporations and what it does in a time like this?

Stop with karl rove this and your uncle told you that and whatever you are basing your decisions on.

Go get books on market economics, military strategy, and how not to be retarded and read them. Then come back and paste links...

You want links? I can pull a few for every one you do but if no one on either side will even click them, what's the point?

Prime example:

http://www.archive.org/details/Path_to_Sunshine

It's a conspiracy and those rich white people are out to get us.

Abe Lincoln was a democrat

Democrats had nothing to do with fannie mae/freddie mac.

Blame bush, bla bla bla, he is leaving office, he ran against bush, the 90% of stuff he agreed with was the correct choices to make.

Stop partisanship, right wingers hate mccain but they surely don't want marxism so they will do (in their mind) what jerry spoke about, picking the lesser of two evils...

What did bush do to you? Were you drafted? Oh no, that was kennedy and johnson that drafted people against their will to a war they refused to win.

Where do you get your information? How you possibly think things would be better with higher taxes, bigger government and less drilling. That is just the issues, when we get into character, experience and association obama cannot win or all hope is lost. I know you waiting for the end of the world when bush got re-elected, sorry we are still here. Keep letting illegals in and you will have enough votes eventually. Then things will be way more fun for hard working people who were stupid and assimilated into the evil american culture. I am breaking out the lederhozen and only speaking german from now on. Give me a break, take your head out of your ass and go run for office if you think you know how.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 19, 2008 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Bush has stocked every cabinet department with political appointees who are utterly unqualified for the jobs they are NOT doing .... Interior and Defense are only the most glaring examples. And how about Justice? - He appointed Alberto Gonzalez AG, the man who drafted the famous torture memo, and repeatedly reassured the president that he can whatever the fuck he wants, with no accountability to anyone.

That's what Bush has done to us.

And sorry but it was Republican DDE who dragged us into Viet Nam, but revisionist history seems to be your stock in trade ...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Thank god he is not running for a third term or you would have a leg to stand on. Go rummage through palin's trash and find something irrelevant to harp on and come back and say things defending a corrupt street hustler with no qualifications to be in executive branch of government.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

GOP made sure no more third terms - now feel free to go off on a tirade about how FDR was a committed, court packing socialist who was duped by Uncle Joe Stalin. We'll eventually work our ways back to Pontius Pilate and his efficient administrative capabilities....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Unlike modern 911 conpiracists, I am not one to bash FDR and don't beleive he knew about pearl harbor (as some accused). There are loonies on all sides. He did have phone sex in the white house though:

http://www.archive.org/download/stiffshucker/006_FDR_phonesex_64kb.mp3

Entire item here:

http://www.archive.org/details/stiffshucker

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 20, 2008 1:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

You're reading the wrong books on market economics, military strategy, because your tactics are jackboot talking points. Stop the partisanship and stop playing both sides against the middle.

>>>>Were you drafted? Oh no, that was kennedy and johnson that drafted people against their will to a war they refused to win.>>>

Where do you get your information?

Your knowledge of Kennedy's role and plans to withdraw from Vietnam is lacking and saying that Johnson refused to win is silly. You must hate having to acknowledge that the Republicans lost Vietnam. All those chickenhawks know if hiring thugs to torture and murder, and how to refuse support to vets who fought their phony wars. Proper war, armor, strategy, care -- nada.

The lies will end one way or another, but it looks like some of you won't come along until the angels come from behind the clouds.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 20, 2008 6:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism - some GD

fucks like Kerry & Fonda and world communist originated protesters helped ALOT to lose that war.
But that was then, thats why I never re-upped in 69 - it worked, be proud.
Would you fight in the military for the USA if you knew it was a just cause? I doubt it...how 'bout back in WW2 to defeat the Jap's & Nazi's? I doubt it. Have a grate day, my keyboard warrior!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-09-20.mtx.dan.30868.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 19, 2008 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

What did Bush do to me?

He deregulated energy ... followed by Enron and all the other scandals.

He deregulated banking, followed by the subprime meltdown and the tip of the iceberg shitstorm we are now seeing ...

Ha gutted the military budget, then fabrictaed the case for war, then handed out TRILLIONS in no-bid sweetheart contracts to defense contractor cronies. Why is this war being fought by mercenaries and private contractors? It makes no sense at all unless you are actively trying to bankrupt the federal government.

Not coincidentally, this war has completley destroyed our international reputation...

So that's what Bush did to me ... and to you, unless you've been living out of the country or something.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

AGAIN, how are you directly affected?

Our reputation? WHO FUCKING CARES! Do you think they want us to be the richest, most powerful or most succesful nation in history? Of course they don't, their opinion is moot.

Are we electing a prime minister? No, it's president of this country and mccain is well respected abroad anyway.

Oh and bush is not running.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 19, 2008 5:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

How did this directly affect me? And every other human being in California? You are joking, right? I don't really have time to provide you with a complete education, you know ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis

Kenneth Lay only laughed, because he knew the con would be all over and cashed out before anyone figured it all out.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 21, 2008 6:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Ken lay for president, not.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 20, 2008 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

The California energy crisis is a really good case.

First it shows that "free" markets ARE constructed.

Two, the rules were designed by economists and lawyers who did know what would happen -- so much that PG&E spun itself a parent corporation that transferred the wealth to New Jersey. And the whole thing was administered so that oversight was fettered.

Maybe California was getting to influential -- the phones and banks are now controlled from other states now.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 20, 2008 2:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

>>>Are we electing a prime minister? No, it's president of this country and mccain is well respected abroad anyway.>>>

Are you kidding? The world wants Obama, not the Manchurian candidate from the Keating 5.

The Palin-McCain ticket is so full of lies and confusion it's a sham(e).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 16, 2008 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

"The world wants Obama, not the Manchurian candidate from the Keating 5."

First of all, ever wonder why our competitors and enemies would want obama? Doesn't that strike you as a reason not to vote for him? Are you for the rest of the world or are you for us? I don't understand that logic, sorry.

And as for the 4 democrats he got involved with, sometimes reaching over the aisle is not a good idea. He was exonerated anyway and I don't think keating or any astronauts tried to bomb the capital and pentagon, killed cops, told teenagers to kill their parents, defrauded public housing, commited voter fraud, invented immunodeficiancy diseases to ethnically cleanse ghettos, etc, etc , etc.

If there were only 1 skeleton in each closet I would throw the keating thing know one cares about around, but Joe the Plumber will seduce you and ass rape you in a clown suit when we go tit for tat on your boy. The guy is a sheister, anyone can see that. Take the blue pill and believe what you want but don't expect everyone to fall for it, it's insulting and self defecating.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Oct 17, 2008 11:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

>>"The world wants Obama, not the Manchurian candidate from the Keating 5.">>

First of all, ever wonder why our competitors and enemies would want obama? Doesn't that strike you as a reason not to vote for him? Are you for the rest of the world or are you for us? I don't understand that logic, sorry.>>

Let's get schmaltzy -- we ARE the world, or the eyes of the world. Sure we have competitors but we can tour with them, and why should we care if people want to see another band too.

If US would follow our supposed principals, we'd clean up. Everyone likes strength through fair play. Arrogance and bullying is hated even by arrogant bullies.

We are not above other people because they live in another part of the world -- or because we're white, black, or brown!

He who dies with the best karma wins.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 18, 2008 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Ok you're right, let's stop fighting extremism and create a socialist governement

Welcome to the future:

"Bush is to the left of me now," Mr Chavez told an audience at a debate on the benefits of socialism. "Comrade Bush announced he will buy shares in private banks."

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla.- She's only 12 years old but Ashleigh Jones is feeling the heat of this election year.

That’s because the seventh grader at New Smyrna Beach Middle School was called a racist by classmates for wearing a pro-Sarah Palin t-shirt.

Jones is volunteering at the Republican Headquarters in New Smyrna Beach. The Palin t-shirt was a gift from her fellow volunteers.

But when she wore it to school she learned just how tough politics can be.

“Some of the students were calling me racist because I was Caucasian,” she said. “I wanted the Caucasian man to win. And I told them that’s not true. It’s my freedom of speech, it’s my opinion.”

LOS ANGELES — The former chief of UCLA's willed body program has pleaded guilty for his role in selling donated body parts.

Beijing Taking Mug Shots of Internet Cafe Users

All visitors to Internet cafés in Beijing are to be required to have their photographs taken in a stringent new control on the public use of cyberspace.

A FATHER has taken his 20-year old son to an Islamic court in northern Nigeria for idleness, asking that he be sent to prison for refusing to engage in productive activities.

"He is not listening to words and he is bringing shame to my family. I am tired of his nefarious deeds. Please put this boy in prison so that I can be free," Sama'ila Tahir, a market trader in the northeastern town of Bauchi, said, according to state news agency NAN.

Mr Tahir told the court that his son had refused to go to school and accused him of belonging to a criminal gang.

The court sentenced the son to six months in prison and 30 strokes of the cane - which were immediately administered on the premises - for being disobedient to his parents, NAN said.

FEDERAL WAY, Wash., Oct. 16 (UPI) -- Authorities say they have arrested five people in the state of Washington on charges of forcing an immigrant girl to serve as their slave.

A federal grand jury indictment accuses Mohammad Atahee, Nasima Yousuf, Mohammad Yousuf, Nahid Yousufi and Maruf Yousufi, of forcing the unidentified 16-year-old Afghan girl to serve as a slave at their homes, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer said Thursday.

Atahee married the girl in her native Afghanistan when she was 13 and took her to the United States where she served as a servant at home in the Washington cities of Auburn and Federal Way, the indictment alleges.

Court documents accuse Atahee of repeatedly assaulting the girl both physically and sexually.

The alleged slave labor took place for nearly 18 months starting in August 2006 and was discovered after the girl reported an alleged rape to police on Jan. 26, 2008.

The Post-Intelligencer said the defendants could be sentenced to five years in prison if convicted on conspiracy to enslavement charges.

Here They Come
Democrats gone wild.

Next year the Democrats will control both houses of Congress, most likely with comfortable, perhaps filibuster-proof majorities. If there is a Democratic president, too, Washington will host one of the most liberal governments in American history. Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are more than ready to make staggeringly liberal changes in the country's economic, social, and foreign policy.

To get a sense of the Democrats' ambitions, listen to them discuss the deficit. They spent the last eight years bemoaning the deficit, which they blamed on the Bush tax cuts. They continually lambasted the Republicans for fiscal irresponsibility. They promised to enact "pay-as-you-go" budget rules and restore accountability.

Thing is, now that power is within their grasp, the Democrats have chucked all that silly talk out the window. They can't wait to raise taxes on high-earners, dividends, capital gains, corporations, oil companies, and estates. But this tax increase is not meant to balance the budget. It's in the name of "fairness," and "patriotism," and whatever revenue it raises will quickly be spent.

Maybe I should turn to religion now, logic isn't working anymore.



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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 20, 2008 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

I didn't say what the world wanted, I clearly stated he was respected. I respect the russian army but I don't like them, get it???

Of course they want obama, jealousy, racism, poverty, religious fundamentalism and socialism have driven them to make that choice abroad as well as in this country.

Click off MSNBC watch CNN and the history channel if you want watch fox. It's all out there.

Sorry about the dow rebound. Maybe next week you can have a talking point again.

Another 50 dead so far in pakistan from the bumper sticker slogan...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 20, 2008 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Fuck the world- my country first

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 20, 2008 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Warmonger!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Sep 20, 2008 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Yeah - that's what ALL the countries say...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 21, 2008 6:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Church of the everlasting thread

Colonist revolt on the quad at berkely, put the hackey sack down and step away from the drum circle.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 20, 2008 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

way to go Rasta! You are one of those dellusional ethnocentric Americans that think we are the ONLY Country on the Planet. You saw what happened to us once using our own planes to do it, with your lame ass fucking attitude you're just begging for it to happen again. And look how well we're doing in Iraq, you REALLY think we could take on the world? I don't care how much nuclear fallout YOU breath when your " glass parking lot" wet dream becomes reality but I sure as hell care about MY family and friends.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 21, 2008 5:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

"look how well we are doing in iraq"

Your point?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 21, 2008 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

my point is obvious, we need to have as much diplomacy as possible ( and it IS possible ) because we are not able of fighting a multi-front war alone which is exactly where we'd be headed with the mentality of Bush and those of you that follow him.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 22, 2008 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Anyone that thinks the "success" of the surge means Iraq has been a success overall is completely delusional BECAUSE...if you remember the geniuses who brought us the war (rummy & cheney chief among them) their largest selling point was how quick and easy it would be, how the Iraqis would greet us with "open arms and as liberators" and how few troops would be necessary to complete the job (the general who before the war suggested 300,000 troops would be needed to do it right was laughed at by Rumsfeld and fired shortly thereafter).

NOW we're calling 140,000 US troops needed in Iraq just to keep it less violent than in the previous FIVE YEARS--a staggering number in itself, btw--a success?

Keeping upwards of 100,000 troops in Iraq is exactly what we DIDN'T want for this war, what we CAN'T SUSTAIN over the long haul without depleting our reserves of troops and reducing the available numbers we need for other places (re: Afghanistan, and eventually, Pakistan), and is just a perfect example of the kind of Orwellian double-speak proponents of the war use to dupe people into thinking the greatest failure of our time, and the most egregiously heinous in terms of illegality, arrogance, and pure utter disdain for the truth, is actually "working."

What an unbelievable joke to defend it (did I mention the COST: $10 BILLION A MONTH AND COUNTING THAT COMES OUT OF TAXPAYER POCKETS?)...and I'd mention the lost lives as well except that those who defend it obviously don;t give a flying rat's ass about any of that "touchy feely liberal crap", with 4,000 plus US soldiers killed and who knows how many tens of thousands of Iraqis left dead or displaced.

Of course, those are the people whose sons and daughters don't have to get drafted to go and so for whom the ultimate sacrifice based on a complete lie (where are those WMD again?) affects them not one whit.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 22, 2008 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Blame carter, kerry, clinton and everyone else who also voted or supported the war, and go pound sand. We are there now, your point is moot. We should go back and avoid the cold war too, and stop 9/11 while we are at it. Maybe the folks at the wayback machine can help you change the past, we can only change the future. Get on board and stop obama, you can do it.

http://www.archive.org/details/bigbangmachine

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 22, 2008 7:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

What a riot you are. You avoid the facts presented in my argument and immediately revert to "go blame clinton, kerry, blah blah blah" and then go on and rant about your fear of Obama. You'd make a lousy magician because your sleight of hand is far too obvious.

Quick pop quiz, genius: Which US President and his staff were given this report on August 6th, 2001: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

Need a minute? Still thinking? Don't strain yourself.......hey! That was your guy W! Wow. What a shock. Yeah, so I guess NOTHING could have been done to prevent 9/11. And I;'m SURE that had a president (name democrat here) received that report, you'd say the same).

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, I guess.

Point is that when you say things like "we're there now, the point is moot"....you only prove that people who fight like hell to avoid having "leaders" like Bush in the first place are 100% right. You get what you pay for.

So when we say we want to oppose a candidate like McCain, who supports the war and would keep it going for who knows how many more years and how many more billions of dollars...we're actually doing so for a good reason.

and btw, you automatically assume I'm an Obama fan, and I'm not. If I had my way, his VP would have won the Dem. primary, b/c he has the most experience, esp. foreign policy, out of any of these tools, is smart and while not being perfect (none of them are) is far more capable of resolving messes like Iraq than your beloved Republicans, who by ANY measurable objective standard, have completely failed this country over the past 8 years.

But your hatred of "liberals" is overwhelming any obvious rational thought on your part, so I realize i'm talking to a brick wall here. I'm really speaking to others whose minds are more open to the truth, and less disdainful of anyone who doesn't buy into their pre-conceived philosophies.

(I don't watch Olbermann, CNN, OR Fox, btw. There are better sources for news that care less about the cult of personality and more about the facts, but you go ahead and assume what you want about me).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 22, 2008 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

What a riot you are. You avoid the facts presented in my argument and immediately revert to "go blame clinton, kerry, blah blah blah" and then go on and rant about your fear of Obama. You'd make a lousy magician because your sleight of hand is far too obvious.

What point were you trying to make other than bash the war in iraq and it's cost? Fear of obama? Now not only do I have to read your posts, I have to go read mine? Sleight of hand? Are you serious?

Quick pop quiz, genius: Which US President and his staff were given this report on August 6th, 2001: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

Thanks, I do have a 159 IQ but never said that, more personal attacks.

Need a minute? Still thinking? Don't strain yourself.......hey! That was your guy W!

My guy W? WRONG, there you go again. Bush isn't running and I would have never picked him in the first place. Oh and he is not running.

Wow. What a shock. Yeah, so I guess NOTHING could have been done to prevent 9/11. And I;'m SURE that had a president (name democrat here) received that report, you'd say the same).

Never said anything like that. 9/11 could have been prevented if government red tape and firewalls in between CIA and FBI, etc were lifted earlier maybe we would have stopped it. I think the patriot act might be part of that solution but let's ignore that and just call each other names.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, I guess.

Exactly, your opinions are the truth and my opinions are not. Sounds fair to me. Get a life nutjob.

Point is that when you say things like "we're there now, the point is moot"....you only prove that people who fight like hell to avoid having "leaders" like Bush in the first place are 100% right. You get what you pay for.

We are there now, and making a big deal out of it doesn't get us out. Victory does. I want out ASAP as well, AFTER EVER LAST ENEMYIS DEAD.

So when we say we want to oppose a candidate like McCain, who supports the war and would keep it going for who knows how many more years and how many more billions of dollars...we're actually doing so for a good reason.

Yes, killing religious extremists who want to kill you more than they want to kill me, which is the ironic part of this argument.

and btw, you automatically assume I'm an Obama fan, and I'm not. If I had my way, his VP would have won the Dem. primary, b/c he has the most experience, esp. foreign policy, out of any of these tools, is smart and while not being perfect (none of them are) is far more capable of resolving messes like Iraq than your beloved Republicans, who by ANY measurable objective standard, have completely failed this country over the past 8 years.

I agree as well, biden outshines obama's experience by far. Mccain is not bush and wanted to handle the war differently and well there were some other things that get brushed under the rug because they only amount to 10% according to the media.

But your hatred of "liberals" is overwhelming any obvious rational thought on your part, so I realize i'm talking to a brick wall here. I'm really speaking to others whose minds are more open to the truth, and less disdainful of anyone who doesn't buy into their pre-conceived philosophies.

Assuming to know who I hate because I am sick of people saying shit without bakcing it up? I am all for free speech and one of my points was that it only seems to apply to some people.

(I don't watch Olbermann, CNN, OR Fox, btw. There are better sources for news that care less about the cult of personality and more about the facts, but you go ahead and assume what you want about me).

Well only one of us can assume things so you I'll wait my turn.

There I read your post, answered your points and didn't personally attack you.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 21, 2008 7:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

now-now, johnny, "fuck the world" as in the repressive communist governments such as China, Russia and all the sub countries they support and fund. The useless (to us) UN. It comes down to simple jelousy of our freedoms and greedy people here and abroad.

China (for one) means to take us over economically and the greed mongers here would sell their own mothers to them. If you count every repressive country in the world, most of them want to sabotage and tear down the USA. Even our great friend and neighbor Mexico-with it's invasion of illegals. Our greed and lack of patriotism will lead and is leading to our downfall. Their "God" is the allmighty $$!

Check out MEXICO'S immigration policy >>

“Now, let me just give you some of the highlights of this: ‘Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it the Limbaugh Laws…

First, if you emigrate to our country you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers allowed. Also there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your language, foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold political office.

If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare, food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land it's going to be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to the property.

And another thing, you don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. You're a foreigner, either shut your mouth or get out. And if you come here illegally, you're going to jail".
You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of these laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants in their country, yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets.

OBAMA SAID >>

“The Obama campaign has taken ‘shut your mouth or get out’ from this commentary and put it in an Obama ad and claiming that Limbaugh said that about Mexicans in this country.


So yeah, FUCK that world. Wake up USA, or become an irrelevent 3rd world country filled with illegals who'd care less. How to start? Get off your lazy asses and mow your own lawns, toss those credit cards and spend money you actually have. Fat Rome is about to be taken over by the huns. History will repeat itself unless it's FUCK the hun's (world), my country first attidude.
Actually, Mexico's own immigration policy is common sense...remember common sense??



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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 21, 2008 7:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Stop the hate and start helping the mentally challenged

We are the angry colonists who created a constitution that allows us to evolve over time. All the aid we donate, military and disaster relief, standing up for people's right to pick their own leaders, what a bunch of assholes we are...

Think about it, when we set up an occupier puppet government, we force them to vote... think about that. We give them the chance to pick the same old assholes they had running the place or new ones they want.... hmmm... did the germans do that? Did russians do that? I bet china and the philipines had all the freedoms they needed under imperial japan, should not have interefered there for sure.

Arguing that we are the problem in the world is idiotic. It's an insult to the best part of what makes us human and a tribute to the worst parts of humanity like greed, hatred, racism, jealousy. We are only human and people will always want what others have, darwin explained all this, wasn't anybody listening?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 21, 2008 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Stop the hate and start helping the mentally challenged

I'll have to find and drag out George Washingtons last address as prez (?) Beware of foreign entanglements speech.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 21, 2008 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Stop the hate and start helping the mentally challenged

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It's all in there...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 21, 2008 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

I'm with you on oppressive governments, especially China but that just shows you the corporate greed that really is to blame don't you think? And who exactly is allowing China to pretty much own our Country? Both sides for sure but it seems obvious to me that one side is way worse but we'll definately have to agree to disagree on that one.

As far as Limbaugh - I have no use for that divisive pompous windbag. That guy has nothing positive to contribute to this COuntry. As far as I'm concerned he's a major part of the problem which I see the American people being polarized by a few hot button pretty much irrelevant issues which is allowing us to all be gotten over on when in fact MOST all of us want the same thing. I mean how can anyone take that hypocrite serious? Wants to lock away all drug users forever but yet look at his own situation. Different rules? Wants to exercise imperialistic military might yet himself copped out of joining the military himself.

Immigration -

" You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers allowed."

That's how just about EVERY Country does it, try moving to Canada without any skills or money. I see no problem with that stance.

What I DO see a problem with is people aren't seeing things realistically to fix this. You have MILLIONS of people at our door who have nothing and they are Catholic ( no birth control ) so it's no wonder the number of people are growing exponentially. The vast majority of illegals coming here are not criminals they are hard working people doing what it takes to support their families. If that was what I had to do to support my family and make them a better life I wouldn't feel bad about it for one second, legal or not. So what's the realistic answer? Find out who the greedy pieces of shit in this Country are that are hiring them because they are too greedy to pay American wages and benefits. Find out if there are ways we can get Mexico to get their corrupt shit together ( without giving handouts ) so that conditions improve down there. In fact here's how bad it really is - you have plants that leave places like PA and move down to Mexico. The workers down there are thrilled to be working for the low wage but then the greedy bastards move it to China where they can get even cheaper slave workers. The flood of people coming here is never going to stop unless certain conditions are fixed.

" You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing,"

Better start with the Cubans, by FAR the worst offenders and yet because they vote Republican it seems like a blind eye gets turned there.

" If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers."

Agreed but here comes the hard part - if someone needs medical attention how can anyone turn someone away? It's not right. I definately don't understand why illegals aren't immediately deported when caught or are allowed to legally drive if they're illegally in the Country.

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First, if you emigrate to our country you have to speak the native language"

Why? As long as you're paying your taxes and obeying the laws and don't expect to have taxpayers pay to translate. This equals pretty much the fact that people WILL learn to speak the dominant ( not official because English is NOT the official language of the US )language. See you're speaking to a guy of Spanish decent who's family was here in this Country before that part of the COuntry was the US. My grandparents could speak fluent English but my Grandpa preferred his first language Spanish. What about him? He fought in WWII, was a good citizen, should he have not been allowed to Speak his first language? That part of the family were in this COuntry BEFORE is was the U.S.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 20, 2008 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

I thought I was the Prime Minister?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 20, 2008 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

You sir are Minister of Archery and Saturday Morning Serials or Cereals if you prefer the agricultural aspect. And you're doing a great job with those brownies.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 19, 2008 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

You know, we could just let old lying, double-talking blood'n'guts McCain speak for himself, but then again you've already declared your refusal to admit any information that contradicts your childish world view. You can stick your head back up your ass now ...


1. The Real McCain 2: Watch as McCain's YouTube problem became his nightmare in the video that received over 4 million views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

2. Less Jobs. More Wars: What is this 'Iraq war' charge on my bill?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh-T2iGkLJY

3. John McCain vs. John McCain: Tell McCain to get off the Double Talk Express.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

4. McCain's Spiritual Guide: The video that caused McCain to renounce Rev. Rod Parsley's bigoted endorsement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbIGJrDkg

5. Why Won't McCain Sign the GI Bill? Presenting the most blatant hypocrisy of the McCain campaign.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 15, 2008 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Unlike you, I cannot fit anything larger than a terd into my anus, can you suggest a proven way of stretching the rectum and sphincter to accomodate the cranial insertion?

I love it when you talk dirty and insult me.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 16, 2008 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Uhhhmmm... you fit them IN, noise? Most folks I know push them OUT. Ever feel like you might be doing something a little wrong here?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 16, 2008 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

I recycle terds, get green man!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 16, 2008 2:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

I thought so, some people are just happiest being full of shit.

:-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 16, 2008 2:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

Except for the constipated and anal retentives.

And these people:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24504670-29277,00.html

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 16, 2008 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Let the hating begin again... typical liberalism

The French call these "staircase words" and, after four weeks, you really should keep them to yourself. How embarassing.